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Rooney vastaa kritiikkeihin:

 

"That’s football, I think. We don’t win in three games and, of course, everyone is going to talk about it. We had a bad week, a bad eight days where we’ve lost three games, and it’s important now we react well to that and come through that."

 

"Yeah, I think I’ve had that my whole career – a little bit more of late, I think, but that’s football. I listen to my coaches and my team-mates, the people around me, and I don’t really listen to what a lot of people out there are saying because a lot of it is rubbish."

 

"I have to focus, work hard, of course, and I’ve done that throughout my career. I’ve worked hard and tried to do my best for the team."

 

"I’ve done that [played in different positions] throughout my career. I feel I can play in all positions but I think the manager has made it clear either I’ll play up front or in the no.10 and that’s where he sees me playing. As I said before, it’s not just myself – the whole team is going in and working hard. We had a bad week but we’ve been working hard to put that right."

 

With the EFL Cup fourth-round draw providing a spicy home tie and the "perfect" chance to avenge the derby defeat against Pep Guardiola's City side, things are looking more positive after Wednesday's 3-1 victory at Northampton Town.

 

"We got the win last night, we’ve got three home games coming up before the international break and it’s important we try to win all three of them and get our season back on track."

 

"The cup games against lower-league teams can be difficult. We had to go there and be focused and make sure we did everything to get the win. We controlled the game in the first half but, in the last five minutes of the first half, we were a little bit sloppy and conceded the goal from the penalty they scored. In the second half, we controlled it again and deserved the victory."

 

"For me, I think it’s the perfect [cup] draw. With what happened in the league, it’s a chance for us to get revenge for that result. It’s going to be a great atmosphere. I think City will have 7,000-8,000 fans here, which will obviously make it an even better atmosphere. I think a cup game against City at Old Trafford is the perfect draw for us."

 

Rooney is convinced the Reds will be challenging for honours this term, with Jose Mourinho working hard behind the scenes to find the winning formula.

 

"I think he’s been brilliant since he’s come in," said the captain. "Training has changed a lot. The training has been really good and it’s interesting to see how he prepares for games with tactics, how we approach games, and it’s been really good."

 

"I’m sure obviously we will come back and definitely be challenging this season."

 

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Mourinho on dropping Rooney

“I knew the question would come, but I think the question should be that we have two young English players in the starting line-up. Lingard and Rashford are quick, the game is going to be intense and fast; we need fast players around Zlatan today. The last thing I want to do as a manager is hurt players or create negative situations - in a normal country with a normal media I would say, ‘23 players, lost of matches to play, fresh people, we have another match on Thursday’. It is just a normal decision.”

Gary Neville on Rooney

“In some ways, it’s become a distraction and that’s not good. It’s the right decision to leave him out today. He’s entering a period of his career where he needs to be managed towards the end of his career - it happened at this club with Robson, Giggs, Scholes. He can have the same end to his career where he plays 25/30 games a season and still contribute. He can play in a Europa League game and Zlatan can play on a Sunday. He has to accept that.

“I’m not saying that moment is now but it is coming, it happens to every player, and he should be relaxed about it. He’s played 800 football matches. It’s impossible for him to think he’s the same player he was 10 years ago. It’s the right thing for Wayne Rooney: he has looked mentally and physically shot in the last two weeks. Have a rest and come back stronger. I think he can still contribute here.”

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Manchester United news: Wayne Rooney reaps what he sows, but will never be revered like Sir Bobby Charlton

Rooney tried to leave the club twice but settled for improved contracts. Now he's out of the side, and the path back into it looks questionable at best

 

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Rooney ei Gareth Southgaten mukaan ole tänään avauksessa maajoukkueen vierasottelussa Sloveniaa vastaan. Syy on kuuleman mukaan taktinen, mutta eiköhän Southgate näe saman minkä Mourinhokin: Rooney ei ole enää tarpeeksi hyvä pelaamaan täysiä minuutteja ottelusta toiseen. 

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Eihän Wayne enää mikään maailmanluokan pelaaja ole ollut, vaikka ajoittain vielä väläytteleekin. Siitä huolimatta ei voida kieltää, vaikka pelaajasta ei muuten pitäisikään, että eikö kyseessä olisi ehdottomasti lajin yksi tämän vuosituhannen suurimmista, jota ollaan viimeisen reilu tusinan vuoden verran katsoa ja seurata. Elävä legenda.

 

Seurajoukkueurallaan nyt alla 619 ottelua, joissa syntynyt 267 maalia ja 145 maalisyöttöä. Tuohon päälle 118 ottelua Englannin paidassa ja 53 maalia.

 

- 1x Champions League Winner (07/08)

- 5x English Champion (06/07, 07/08, 08/09, 10/11, 12/13)

- 1x English FA Cup Winner (15/16)

- 3x English League Cup Winner (05/06, 08/09, 09/10)

- 1x FIFA Club World Cup Winner (08/09)

- 1x Intercontinental Cup Winner (07/08)

- 5x English Super Cup Winner (07/08, 10/11, 11/12, 13/14, 16/17)

- 1x U21 Premier League Champion (15/16)

- 1x FIFA Club World Cup Top Scorer (3 Goals) (08/09)

- 1x Premier League Player Of The Year (09/10)

 

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Hieno video Rooneysta. Ei ole turhan montaa positiivista sanaa tullut sanottua Väiskistä sinä aikana, jona olen tänne foorumille kirjoittellut. Kokonaisuudessa arvostan kapteenin vuosien aikana seuralle antaman panoksen todella korkealle. On sanottava kuitenkin, että niillä kahdella siirtosaagalla Rooney vaurioitti pysyvästi mainettaan United-kannatajien silmissä. Tästä huolimatta maaliennätyksen rikkominen on yksinäänkin temppu, jolla kuitataan status seuralegendana ilman, että legenda sanana kokee arvonalennusta, mutta ilman hölmöilyjä Rooneyn nimi voitaisiin mainita Sir Bobbyn ja Giggsin kaltaisten suurlegendojen rinnalla. Ns. ulkopuoliset varmaan helpommin nostavat Rooneyn näiden herrojen rinnalle tulevaisuudessa.

 

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Kannataisi käväistä Manchesterissa pelipäivänä Old Traffordin lähistöllä kuuntelemassa iso/tosi fanien mielipiteitä Rooneystä. Iso pelaaja, aito devils,legenda, the man jne. Rooneyn siirtojupakka oli useimpien mielestä sitä suurta mediasirkusta jota ei kannata ottaa tosissaan.

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Kannataisi käväistä Manchesterissa pelipäivänä Old Traffordin lähistöllä kuuntelemassa iso/tosi fanien mielipiteitä Rooneystä. Iso pelaaja, aito devils,legenda, the man jne. Rooneyn siirtojupakka oli useimpien mielestä sitä suurta mediasirkusta jota ei kannata ottaa tosissaan.

 

Mutta eihän toi mun teksti ole millään tavalla ristiriidassa noiden sun paikallisilta saamien näkemysten kanssa. En nyt ala toistamaan itseäni, mutta sanon, että voit olla legenda, the man kuitenkaan pääsemättä Sir Bobbyn ja Giggsin tasolle arvostuksessa.

 

Sellaista mediasirkusta olivat nuo siirtosaagat, että ainakin ensimmäisellä kerralla Sir Alex itse sanoi julkisesti, että Rooney ei halua allekirjoittaa uutta sopimusta.

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Wayne Rooney: Manchester United Legend but Still a Perfect Vehicle for Hate

 

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Manchester United fans have tweeted some choice remarks about one of their greatest players this season: "Wayne Rooney is a disgrace to the No. 10 jersey." "Rooney is poison." "Wayne Rooney you complete liability."
 
It doesn't matter that Rooney is United's all-time record goalscorer or helped them win five Premier League titles and the Champions League.
 
Most United fans don't talk this way. But venom on social media has become ubiquitous and nurtured a strange new phenomenon: fans who like to whip up hatred of their own clubs' heroes.
 
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Ever since the Nazis, scholars have been trying to understand how one of the most sophisticated and cultured countries in the world fell under the spell of a hate-filled death cult.
 
In the same spirit, future historians will surely puzzle over the sudden lurch toward authoritarian nationalism in the once-stable liberal democracies of the United Kingdom and the United States.
 
Anyone studying the rises of Brexit and President Trump could do worse than focus on the relatively trivial arena of football fandom.
 
Early stirrings of a dark new discourse became visible at the beginning of this decade. This new culture combined resentment of a perceived elite with the triumph of emotion over reason. Trolling replaced civility. There came a tidal wave of resentment and anger.
 
This anger was not the cry of the oppressed or a response to intolerable circumstance. It was more like the Two Minutes Hate from George Orwell's 1984 but as entertainment. Anger for fun. Even, on occasion, anger for money.
 
Fans have been getting worked up about football since the dawn of the game. It has always been an outlet for venting personal frustration.
 
When Nick Hornby's ode to the travails of following Arsenal, Fever Pitch, appeared in 1992, devotees of other clubs identified with its wry central observation that a fan's life was meant to be miserable. Later, fanzines and the early internet message boards also cheerfully subscribed to the idea that nothing was more admirable than to be a long-suffering fan.
 
But fandom has changed.
 
The most telling sign is that in any stadium you're now as likely to see spectators checking their phones as watching the match.
 
John Foot, Arsenal fan and author, observes: "Now everybody can watch every game live and comment on it all the time, and that becomes what matters. This creates narcissistic tendencies. So people aren't really talking about Arsenal or Liverpool or whatever. It's about 'me' and 'my view' and 'what will Piers Morgan tweet?'"

 

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Conversations and feelings once confined to the match and the stadium are now endless and have spread everywhere. In this new environment, players and managers are judged and found wanting at all levels of the game at all hours of the day. Fans feel entitled to express their contempt.
 
Rooney has been booed in person and abused online by supporters of the two teams he captains. With England, it's been going on since 2010; at Manchester United, it's happened since 2011. With both teams, he has been the scapegoat for relative decline. Fans also seem to resent him for failing, largely because of injuries, to fulfill all the youthful promise he showed when he exploded onto the scene in 2004.
 
The contrast with treatment of past heroes could hardly be more stark. When players like Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore and Stanley Matthews aged, they were treated with love and respect—even by fans of rival clubs. Brian Clough's final years as manager at Nottingham Forest were marked by alcoholism, increasingly erratic behavior and relegation, but no one wished him injury or death.
 
Rooney and other victims of the new cult are entitled to wonder, as Don Corleone did, "What have I ever done to make you treat me so disrespectfully?"
 
Well, not much.
 
Antipathy to Rooney, expressed in the stadium by occasional booing and relentlessly on Twitter and other social media, is rooted in a similar sense of entitlement and grievance divorced from perspective.
 
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An outsider might expect United fans to love Rooney, even if he's no longer an automatic first-team choice. He is, after all, the club captain and record goalscorer. He was the usually thrilling figure in a decade of United dominance. He scored more than 30 goals in two separate seasons. Alongside Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlos Tévez, he was part of one of the most powerful and potent forward lines ever to march on European football.
 
Naturally, Rooney is no longer as explosive as in his prime. But as former team-mate Rio Ferdinand has observed, that's mainly because of the wear and tear inflicted by Rooney's selfless, hard-working style, which has left the 31-year-old with a body more like that of a 40-year-old.
 
Anti-Rooney United fans still complain bitterly that he flirted with the possibility of leaving for rivals Manchester City in 2010.
 
At the time, United were being outspent by Chelsea and City, and anger toward the Glazer family, United's unpopular owners, was intense. Rooney's manoeuvre to secure a lucrative new contract was a standard negotiating tactic—John Terry did much the same at Chelsea in 2009, for example—but was regarded as disloyal and mercenary.

 

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Rooney not only stayed but helped United win another title. He even scored against City in February 2011 with a goal later voted the best ever seen in the Premier League. In 2013-14, he was a symbol of continuity and played well in a disintegrating team during during David Moyes' brief tenure.
 
For some fans, though, the damage was done. As writer and United fan Musa Okwonga tells Bleacher Report: “There are some people who just won't forgive him for asking to leave—and not just once but on two occasions.”
 
But would those fans themselves have acted differently? "You'd be mad to turn that down," Okwonga says. "No one can really have a go at Rooney for taking the money because, frankly, any of us would take £300,000 per week."
 
There are other factors in play too. As writer Daniel Harris observes: "There are some United fans who will never like him because of his [Liverpudlian] accent. That's football. There are some people who think 'a Scouser has got no business captaining United.'"
 
Rooney also suffers by comparison with the long list of charismatic geniuses in the United pantheon, such as George Best, Charlton, Ronaldo, Roy Keane and David Beckham. "It's also a class thing," Harris says. "He isn't polished, so people interpret him as being aggressive. He has had a lot of competitive charisma but is not a very charismatic bloke, much though the other players like him."
 
Tellingly, though, the antipathy toward Rooney on social media is far more intense than in the stadium.
 
"My impression is that there is a lot more patience for him in the ground, even when he isn't playing that well," Okwonga says. "That's the nature of social media, which is about extremes, memes and snap judgements. It's a quite cruel form of engagement."
 
Most of the cruelest comments about him these days are on private message boards and chatrooms. But plenty are visible on Twitter. One of the darkest timelines was that of "Zar," who tweeted as @unknownsock_zar and whose followers included respectable United fans and journalists.
 
Zar doesn't just dislike Rooney. He seems to want him dead. When Rooney tweeted his shock at waking up to news of the Chapecoense air disaster, Zar commented: “Sadly you woke up.” At Christmas, he asked his more than 4,000 twitter followers which public figure they hoped would drop dead. Thirty per cent voted for Rooney.
 
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Zar often mused about people he'd apparently like to die. "Sadly Will Smith hasn't had a heart attack." "Sadly Bob Geldof is still alive." He retweeted a comment on Steven Gerrard: "I hope someone throws a toaster in while he's having a bath" and hoped that overseas United fans "get Ebola." And Rooney is by no means the only United player he's hated.
 
Memphis Depay, Tom Cleverley, Anderson, Darron Gibson, Marouane Fellaini and Jesse Lingard have also felt his wrath.
 
It is not isolated to Zar. Twitter timelines this season have seen incredulous insults aimed at England's all-time leading goalscorer.
 
"[it's] going to be like having a tumour removed the day that scouse c--t f--ks off." "Rooney is the biggest cancer football has ever seen. Why can't someone break his leg?."  "An utter f--king disgrace." "Pathetic fat bastard."
 
Simon Kuper, Financial Times columnist and author, suggests there is nothing fundamentally new in social media aggression and that Britain's tabloids have been finding scapegoats for decades: "There's been a viciousness in football writing for a long time, in always saying the manager is a complete failure and has to go. And this was paralleled in the complete lack of nuance in tabloid writing about politics: all politicians are in it for themselves and completely useless. Now, thanks to social media, the average Joe can be toxic too. It's just made it more democratic."
 
Kuper believes attacks on leading football figures chime with the zeitgeist: "Anti-elitism has been the winning political narrative of the past year. Absurdly, it's done by elitists like Donald Trump and Nigel Farage, but it's incredibly potent. There is this very deep dislike and suspicion of the political elite, the intellectual elite—and the football elite as well."
 
Another underlying problem is that Brits have little sense of the greatness of their finest public figures. To that end, Kuper compares Rooney's treatment to the media bile directed at Paul McCartney in the 1990s. "These people have contributed to our lives," he says. The only saving grace is they're typically recycled as "national treasures" in their later years as the bitterness washes away.
 
In 2012, a study of social media's "psychological pathologies" by German academics Anja Lorenz and Christian Schieder, revealed how its platforms can worsen pre-existing psychological, social and political problems. Social networks, particularly where users remain anonymous, encourage bullying and tend to lead to extreme forms of expression of opinion. There was, Schieder and Lorenz concluded, an urgent need to understand "the transformational force of social media and especially its potentially negative side effects."
 
As Mark Perryman of the University of Brighton observes, football is a perfect vehicle for hate: "You see fans taking out resentment and frustration of their lives and projecting it on to the stage in front of them. In the early '90s, on the cusp of the Premier League era, there was no Twitter, no Facebook, no email and no blogs, but we had the fanzines. I don't think I'm too misty-eyed when I say they were humorous but trying to create social change."
 
"I'm not saying that doesn't exist in social media. It does. But it's overwhelmed by a tidal wave of, I wouldn't quite call it post-truth Trumpism, but it's angry white blokes. Someone linked the other day to an angry Spurs fan, and it was just a tirade of abuse about Arsenal. I thought 'God, this is just appalling.'"

 

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Five years on, the potential Lorenz and Schieder identified has been realised. We live in a world transformed by demagogy, fake news and the explosive growth of every form of intolerance. Football fans have moved on from delivering anonymous insults. They now do it in full view via the medium of YouTube.
 
Here, for example, are the words of Andy Tate, the best-known contributor to FullTimeDEVILS, a Manchester United fan channel, complaining after defeat in the Manchester derby in September 2016: “Wayne Rooney. He's yesterday's news. What does he do to deserve to be on the pitch and be the captain of this team? Is it in his contract? Because, I'm sorry, but he set up goals, like, for Hull City and against Southampton, but he did...he did f--k all today. All he does is pump it in. He's useless.”
 
This, though, is sweet, good-natured gentility compared to some of the abuse dished out by the market leaders in the field, such as ArsenalFanTV. One infamous clip on that channel, entitled "Most Famous Ever Football Fan Rant," went viral to the tune of 1.15 million views and counting.
 
Angry ArsenalFanTV videos get up to 10 times as many viewers as low-key ones and are helpfully signposted on the channel's homepage with the words "rant" and "explicit." Many mainstream Arsenal fans are appalled by these antics and call these videos "hate speech." It's easy to see why.
 
But here's the weird thing: A lot of people love this stuff. If Trump's election campaign revealed a market for rambling hate-filled demagog, then football has a number of outlets happy to supply the product.
 
Meanwhile, there's plenty of complicity between the angry fans and the mainstream media. Tabloid newspapers, for example, report fan rants as if they were news. "West Ham fan REALLY loses it." "Fan goes berserk following Southampton loss." "The Claret and Blue supporter almost turned his club's colours with rage as he exploded in a profanity-fuelled rant." "'Fix up or f--k off!' Angry Man United fan lays into Wayne Rooney and Paul Pogba during epic rant."
 
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In a sense, the ranters are only doing an extreme version of what we hear, see and read from traditional media outlets every week.
 
Print journalists follow each other herd-like to vilify the same player before moving to a new target. The BBC's phone-in show 606 ("the nation's biggest football debate") puts fans on air to demand managers be sacked, stars sold and new players bought. Sky's long-running Soccer Saturday features retired footballers emoting as they watch matches on screens the viewers cannot see. Player X is having an absolute 'mare! Ref Y missed a stonewall penalty! Pundit Z's prediction was hilariously wrong!
 
But these shows lack the central emotional element that fuels the darker fan channels. Pankaj Mishra, author of The Age of Anger, cites Nietzsche's concept of resentment to describe its essence: "A whole tremulous realm of subterranean revenge, inexhaustible and insatiable in outbursts."
 
There's also a political element. Most activist fans are probably on the left, but like plenty of Brexit and Trump voters, the angry fans see themselves as outsiders and rebels against the establishment.

 

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In his 1968 book, The Revolution of Everyday Life, the Belgian situationist and philosopher Raoul Vaneigem seemed to predict the age of the ranting fan. Denied a leading role in anything, the "man of resentment," said Vaneigem, demands "the best seat in the spectacle" and "chews on the most insignificant information." But this anger is the opposite of revolutionary. It is reactionary and easily manipulated; the powerful give the powerless "successful men to hate" in order to serve their own interests.
 
The more fundamental issue is where this increasingly hysterical and poisonous fan discourse might be taking us. It's unlikely to be anywhere good. As Sir Richard Evans, the eminent historian of the Nazi period has warned: "One of the worrying things is the poisoning of political and public discourse through lies and insults. That's very similar to the early 1930s in Germany."
 
Without some measure of civility, civilization itself cannot function. Back in our small world of football, what happens when Rooney eventually stops playing?
 
Who will the Rooney haters find to hate next?

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Ajattelin aluksi jättää lukematta, mutta ihan hyvä kirjoitus se loppujen lopuksi oli. 

 

Pelaajana olet juuri niin hyvä kuin viimeinen ottelusi. Näin se on aina ollut ja tulee olemaan, se on osa ihmisluontoa. Sosiaalinen media vain tuo sen kärkkäimmän kritiikin vielä vahvemmin esille. Kuten tekstissä mainittiin, niin Rooneylla ei ole sellaista imagoa tukenaan, joka on muilla suurilla United-pelaajilla on ollut. Tämän takia Rooney on myös alttiimpi kritiikille. Ehkä muutama vuosi uran lopettamisen jälkeen useimmat vihaajatkin osaavat arvostaa sitä, millaisia saavutuksia Rooney pystyi Unitedissa tekemään. 

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Iltalehdestä lainaus..

 

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Täksi kaudeksi Evertoniin siirtynyttä Rooneyta pyydettiin Englannin joukkueeseen tuleviin MM-karsintaotteluihin, mutta mies kieltäytyi kunniasta.

- Mietittyäni pitkään ja kovasti, kerroin kuitenkin Garethille (Southgate), että olen päättänyt vetäytyä lopullisesti maajoukkueesta, Rooney kirjoitti tiedotteessa."

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Täällä ei ole ollenkaan kommentoitu Rooneyn viimeaikaista "tempausta", kuskasi siis vierasta naista tämän autolla päissään. Joittenkin huhujen mukaan humalatila oli huomattava ja rangaistuksena saattaa olla jopa 6 kk. vankeutta. Tapaus tulee tuomioistuimen käsiteltäväksi 18. päivä tätä kuuta, jos joutuu vankilaan istumaan, uran luulisi olevan siinä.

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Rooneylle keskiviikkona upea hattutemppu, viimeinen maali komea pomppu  tyhjiin. Matkaa kuitenkin yli puoli kenttää.

"Hattutemppu on ollut viime vuodet harvinaista herkkua Rooneylle. Edellisestä hattutempusta on nimittäin aikaa vaatimattomat 2272 päivää. Se syntyi 10. syyskuuta 2011 ja Rooney edusti tuolloin Manchester Unitedia.

Samalla Rooney pääsi myös historiankirjoihin. Kyseessä on nimittäin pisin väli yhden pelaajan hattutemppujen välillä Valioliigan historiassa.

 

Rooney on onnistunut aina hyvin West Hamia vastaan. Hän on tehnyt urallaan lontoolaisia vastaan 13 maalia."

 

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472 peliä/ 205 maalia :proud:

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Wayne Rooney osui kaksi kertaa ja syötti yhden maalin, kun MLS-sarjan DC United antoi kyytiä New York Citylle luvuin 3–1.

DC United varmisti tuloksella jatkopelipaikan. Joukkue kärvisteli kesällä MLS-sarjan hännillä, mutta ponnahti nousuun, kun Rooney, 32, muutti heinäkuussa Washingtoniin.

 

 

Kaikkien aikojen valioliigapelaajien joukkoon kuuluva Rooney on tehnyt Yhdysvalloissa 19 ottelussa 12 ja pohjustanut kuusi osumaa.

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