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Manchester United executives view Celtic safe standing, as pressure for a trial Old Trafford area grows

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/manchester-united-celtic-safe-standing-area-old-trafford-football-safety-a7354626.html

 

Vastaava ~3000-paikkainen seisomakatsomo olisi OT:lla toteutuessaan aivan loistava juttu. Ed Woodward on jo aiemmin osoittanut avoimuutta tällaisille ideoille. Suurin ongelma on, että lakipykäliä täytyisi rukata uusiksi. Hyvä uutinen on, että Liverpoolissa ollaan toivuttu Hillsboroughista, ja myös siellä voitaisiin ottaa seisomakatsomot uudelleen käyttöön. 

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Kausilipun haltijoilta kysellään parhaillaan mielipiteitä seisomakatsomoihin liittyen:

 

Manchester United have asked fans whether they want standing back at Old Trafford if it was made legal.

 

Premier League clubs recently held initial talks on the possibility of introducing safe standing at grounds. Top flight and Championship stadiums have had to be all-seater since terraces were outlawed in the aftermath of the 1989 Hillsborough disaster. Safe-standing areas, featuring retractable seats, are used at Celtic and abroad, notably in Germany. Premier League chiefs have acknowledged a "softening" around the topic of standing clubs, with an improved atmosphere cited as one of the benefits, and clubs have agreed to hold further talks in the new year. But some clubs - including Everton - are against it and

 

it would need government legislation to change if safe standing was introduced at stadiums in England. United contacted season-ticket holders on Thursday and included the question in a 20-point survey. Supporters were asked for the three areas of Old Trafford - the biggest club ground in the UK, with a capacity of 75,635 - that they would prefer standing to be introduced. It is believed to be the first time a Premier League club has surveyed its fans about the idea of bringing standing back to English grounds. Jon Darch, who runs the Safe Standing Roadshow, which promotes the use of rail seats, said: "I am sure that the level of interest will be huge and look forward both to hearing the results and to seeing other Premier League clubs follow suit and ask their fans if they would also like to be formally allowed to stand at games in dedicated areas of rail seating, specifically designed for safe standing."

 

The Hillsborough disaster in 1989 resulted in the deaths of 96 Liverpool fans following crushing on the terraces. There have been no standing areas at Old Trafford since 1994. Senior United officials went to Celtic Park in October to inspect the 4,000-capacity rail seating that has been used at Scotland's biggest club ground since July. While many fans have championed the cause of safe standing, it has strong opposition from the Hillsborough Support Group who, last month, said the return of standing would be a "backward step".

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38411627

 

Alla video siitä, miten seisomakatsomo on toteutettu Bayernin Allianz Arenalla. Normaalit penkit saa tarvittaessa käännettyä esiin, kuten kohdasta 1:10 eteenpäin nähdään: 

 

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OT:lla tehdään melko mittavia muutoksia liikuntarajoitteisia varten:

 

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/10740863/man-utd-to-relocate-2600-season-ticket-holders-in-order-to-boost-disabled-seating?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

 

Kapasiteetti tulee samalla putoamaan liki kahdella tuhannella, eli lähelle 73 000:tta. Tämä nyt on vähän siinä mielessä huono, että tunnelma tulee stadionilla kaikella todennäköisyydellä heikkenemään entisestään. Muuten kyllä ymmärrän tarpeen tuolle projektille. Aiemmin esillä ollut safe standing olisi nyt todella tärkeä saada vietyä läpi. MUST on laajamittaisemman stadionlaajennuksen kannalla enkä laittaisi itsekään yhtään vastaan, jos se saataisiin lähitulevaisuudessa kunnolla nostettua tapetille.

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Tunnelmahan on tällä kaudella ollut nousussa ainakin viime kauteen verrattuna. Pari peliä olen paikan päällä tällä kaudella katsellut ja uutta innostustabon ollut havaittavissa. Nämä katsomojärjestelyt ovat ymmärtääkseni osa isompaa kokonaisuutta jota toteutetaan siksi että Old Trafford pysyy mahdollisena champparin yms ottelujen loppuottelupaikkana.

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Tunnelma oli illan ottelussa sanalla sanottuna heikko. Okei, vastassa Unitedin mittapuulla lähes kääpiötason joukkue, mutta eka UCL-kotipeli pariin vuoteen, niin odottaisi PALJON enemmän. Mutta jälleen, mikäs mä olen näistä kritisoimaan, kun en ole ees OT:lla vuosiin käynyt. 

 

Seisomakatsomo olisi ehdoton, mutta se ei tule onnistumaan ilman muutoksia liigatasolla. Vähän aina kaiholla katselee, kun Bundesliigassa bannerit ja liput liehuu ja Valioliigan pelissä pahimmillaan melkein koko stadion istuu paikoillaan. 

 

Toisella foorumilla mainittiin chanttien olevan vaikeita, ja varmaan osin pitääkin paikkansa. Normikatsoja ei tunnu kovin helpolla chantteihin lähtevän mukaan. Näkisin kyllä mielellään lisää kommentteja OT:n tunnelmasta, jos joku on pelissä viime aikoina käynyt. 

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Paska tunnelma, thats it. Miksi faniosa on korkealla eikä päädyssä kentän tasolla? Siis se osa joka aloittaa aina laulut OT:lla? Sitähän kokeiltiin kulmaan mutta mielestäni väärä pääty ja vieressä on disable katsomon osa.

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Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho invited to meet fans over criticism of atmosphere

 

Manchester United Supporters Trust has invited Jose Mourinho to 'discuss his concerns' over the Old Trafford atmosphere. Mourinho has made a number of comments about the Reds' support in the past week which started with him criticising them for not giving enough backing to Romelu Lukaku.

 

He stated was unfair that fans 'don't support him so much' and that they should view him as 'untouchable' after a section of fans booed when Marcus Rashford was subbed. The United boss didn't let the issue go and the situation was fuelled in his programme notes ahead of the win against Benfica when he said he hoped they 'enjoy the game more than some of you did against Tottenham'.

 

Mourinho's remarks have angered some and MUST have invited him to chat to them over the issue.

"There are differing views amongst supporters on precisely how to interpret the manager's comments," MUST said in a statement to Press Association Sport.

"However it's probably fair to say there is a universal desire within the stadium to see atmosphere improved just as there is at other Premier League clubs.

 

"There are a number of factors that have contributed to atmosphere decline over the decades, some of which could be addressed with better co-operation between clubs and supporters.

"MUST would certainly appreciate the opportunity to engage with the manager, as part of our existing dialogue with other club officials, on issues around atmosphere and would be more than happy to meet to discuss his concerns."

 

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-utd-jose-mourinho-fans-13844357

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